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Old 06-22-2012, 11:26 AM   #1
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Final Destination is not the only fair map

So, I'm about to be in a local tourney. As with most tourneys, the rules are no items, Final Destination, 3 stock. I have no problem with this at all, but WHY do people act like FD is the only fair map in the game? Battlefield? No gimmicks, smaller stage, 3 platforms. What's unfair? Smashville? Slightly smaller than FD, 1 moving platform, no gimmicks? What's unfair? Skyworld? Same setup as Battlefield, but with breakable floors. Braking the floor only makes the floor passable. No real gimmicks. What's so unfair?
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:29 PM   #2
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:56 PM   #3
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Well, I don't think I would like Skyworld for tourney purposes because the breakable platforms can have a significant affect on the tide of the match (being unable to grab the edge when the platforms are broken, the floating platform at the bottom saving your enemy's life).

However I don't find Battlefield any less fair than Final Destination. If anything, Final Destination is worse because the lipped edges seriously screw over most character's recoveries. Not to mention the lack of platforms on Final Destination can seriously make the match a slaughter-fest if Smash Balls are on.

But nonetheless, meta-game players will always bitch and moan whenever they can't be on their precious Final Destination.
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:17 PM   #4
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Easy, because of the platforms. Regardless of character recoverys FD is the only plain map where its just one straight gap to stand on. The platforms can give certain characters advantages and disadvantages
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:40 PM   #5
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I'm pretty sure anyone can utilize the platforms to their advantage on Battlefield.
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:04 PM   #6
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I'm pretty sure anyone can utilize the platforms to their advantage on Battlefield.
The very fact you just admitted that people can use it to their advantage pretty much proves a point.
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I said any character can.

Plus, one could argue that FD caters to projectile campers. Try playing an arrow spamming Pit there and see how far you get, or a Fox that's trigger happy (which more often than not they are).
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I never liked the character and stage restrictions of Smash Bros tournaments. I get that some people want to have an even playing field, but I just don't like restrictions.
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I said any character can.

Plus, one could argue that FD caters to projectile campers. Try playing an arrow spamming Pit there and see how far you get, or a Fox that's trigger happy (which more often than not they are).
Yeah but all it means is one person gets there and utilizes it first therefore making it an unfair advantage agaist the other player.
We're talking tournements here and if your a spammer you really shouldn't be there. Besides that point, theres plenty of anti projectile moves. Yes ganny wouldn't fair well agaist pit but let's face it at some point hes gonna catch up to the big guy.
The very fact you hate playing snakes because of his 3 move hit and projectiles makes him "cheap"/"spammer" doesn't mean people can't play agaist him.

This is about the stage, not the players in mind what so ever, so back to the original point. FD has nothing on the stage physically for one player to use at advantage over the other player. Therefore a completely even battle ground.

FD is and will always be the ONLY fair map.
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Yeah but all it means is one person gets there and utilizes it first therefore making it an unfair advantage agaist the other player.
We're talking tournements here and if your a spammer you really shouldn't be there. Besides that point, theres plenty of anti projectile moves. Yes ganny wouldn't fair well agaist pit but let's face it at some point hes gonna catch up to the big guy.
The very fact you hate playing snakes because of his 3 move hit and projectiles makes him "cheap"/"spammer" doesn't mean people can't play agaist him.

This is about the stage, not the players in mind what so ever, so back to the original point. FD has nothing on the stage physically for one player to use at advantage over the other player. Therefore a completely even battle ground.

FD is and will always be the ONLY fair map.
End of discussion, good night.
What about the lipped edges that can have an effect on some character's recovery moves?
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