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Old 12-21-2012, 08:30 PM   #1
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Ganondorf Question

Ok so I was wondering y'know how with the Triforce there will always be three individuals who poses the powers of Wisdom, Power and Courage? Well Link has been reborn so many times under that pretense and so has Zelda, but Ganondorf has pretty much stayed the same guy, right? He just kept getting locked away over and over and kept breaking free somehow. But he was still the same Ganondorf, the one who grew up with the Gerudo, yadayadayada.

But what I don't understand is that at the end of Twilight Princess, he dies. Like, dead. Not locked away, not sealed forever; stabbed. To death. What happens now? Nothing? Is that why Ganondorf hasn't been in a game since then? Is he just... gone? If so, who does the Triforce of Power go to?
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:07 PM   #2
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There are 3 official Zelda timelines: one where link defeats Ganon in OOT, as well as one where Ganon defeats him. The third comes from a split. Link was given his childhood back, so that timeline continued separately from the adult timeline. So the timelines are Successful (adult), child timeline, and failure timeline. Twilight PRincess is part of the Childhood Timeline, taking place after ajora's Mask (it is a different Link than in OOt and MM, though). The only game so far to take place after Twilight Princess was Four Swords, in which Vaati was the villain. So yes, Ganon is dead, but only in the child timeline.

Edit: here is the official timeline

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Okay, there are two Ganons mucking about in the whole chronology of the Zelda series.

Ganondorf I, as we'll affectionately call him, is the one that causes pretty much all the trouble in all the games he appears in. In the Decline Timeline, he kills Link, but in ALttP, he is finally defeated. However, Twinrova plots to revive him, and for the most part it works, except it's an imperfect revival, and he is more or less an thoughtless monster. He's revived again in LoZ somehow, then killed and his third(!) revival plot is put to a halt when Link gets the Triforce in Zelda II: The Adventure of Link.

In the Adult Timeline, he breaks free from the seal placed on him at the end of Ocarina of Time, and plots to take over Hyrule. However, it is flooded, and the Master Sword locks away his power. When Link takes the sword, he is completely free to do as he pleases. However, Link defeats him. He is turned to stone and is left on the bottom of the sea.

The Child Timeline sees Ganondorf get locked into the Twilight Realm, but he manages to get out eventually thanks to Zant. Link and Zelda both put a stop to him, and this is where he dies.

Now....Four Swords Adventures features Ganondorf II, the reincarnation of the Evil Gerudo King, as it's heavily implied that the Ganon featured in this game is not the same as the other Ganon that had originally caused trouble. However, his goals seem to be mainly the same as the Ganon before him, and as such, Link puts the kibosh on him.
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So even if he did die, he was reincarnated in the same way that Link and Zelda are, to answer your question.
I suppose that's why the Seven Sages sealed him away rather than killing him.
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To be honest, these days I don't really believe the Zelda franchise has a timeline. Each game is a completely independant legend but except for the obvious sequels, they aren't actually connected. Just different legends or different retellings of the same story.

In any case, even death doesn't stop Ganon he can always be resurrected by one of his underlings or something. According to Zelda II all you need is Link's blood.
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So even if he did die, he was reincarnated in the same way that Link and Zelda are, to answer your question.
I suppose that's why the Seven Sages sealed him away rather than killing him.
Exactly. It all goes back to Demise, and the curse he placed on Link and Zelda at the end of Skyward Sword.

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Though this is not the end. My hate... never perishes. It is born anew in a cycle with no end! I will rise again! Those like you... Those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero... They are eternally bound to this curse. An incarnation of my hatred shall ever follow your kind, dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time!
Of course with this curse, he could also be referring to any of the other side villains, like Vaati, Bellum, the Nightmare and Majora, even moreso with Demon King Malladus in Spirit Tracks.
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The timeline stuff really confuses me. I wish they'd released them in order of story ;-;
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The timeline stuff really confuses me. I wish they'd released them in order of story ;-;
There's no fun in that! Consider the timeline like a Zelda dungeon. It's large, complex, and has a few obstacles about it. But when you finally get to understand it and know its secrets, you really begin to appreciate it.
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