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Old 01-03-2013, 01:01 PM   #1
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Sony files patent that blocks second hand games

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Report: New Sony Patent Blocks Second Hand Games
It'll supposedly be based around NFC technology and permission tags embedded in discs.
by Luke Karmali JANUARY 3, 2013

Sony has reportedly patented technology that will prevent the use of second hand games on consoles.

According to NeoGAF member gofreak, the patent application was filed on 9 December 2012 by Sony Computer Entertainment Japan, and will work by linking individual game discs to a user's account without requiring a network connection meaning any future attempt to use this disc on another user's console won't work.


The use permission tag stores the terms of use of the game and determines whether a combination of the disc ID and the player ID conveyed from the reproduction device fulfils the terms of use or not.

The patent explains that games will come with contactless tags that will be read by your console in much the same way as modern bank cards. When a disc is first used, the disc ID and player ID will be stored on the tag. Every time the disc is used in future, the tag will check if the two ID’s match up and, if not, then the disc won’t work.

The document goes on to explain that such a device is part of Sony's ongoing efforts to deter second-hand games sales, and is a far simpler solution than always-on DRM or passwords.

It's worth noting that Sony has not confirmed the existence of the device, and the patent doesn't state what machine it will be used in, with later paragraphs also mentioning accessories and peripherals.

It does raise some concerns though. Firstly, the impact on game rental stores would be catastrophic as surely this means they'd no longer be able to do business? Given publishers' usual desire to keep retailers sweet by not undercutting them on prices and the like, this would be an unusual move.

There's also the issue of what happens should your console break and need replacing, or if you have more than one console. Will the games be linked to your PSN account, meaning they can still be used, or the console, meaning an entire new library of titles would need to be purchased?
SOURCE - http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/...ond-hand-games
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:20 PM   #2
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This is good. Nobody can buy games cheaply at second hand prices, so less games will be sold, resulting in bigger and more frequent price drops of new games, eventually bringing the release prices down.
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That is why I prefer downloadable games instead.

It's kind of old news as Microsoft do the similar ways for their next Xbox 720.
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That is why I prefer downloadable games instead.

It's kind of old news as Microsoft do the similar ways for their next Xbox 720.
Except there's nothing concrete about anything about Durango yet. It's all speculation.

I'm not liking this move. Firstly, a good bit of games achieve cult classic status and even a second life through secondhand and used games. To deny the ability to play these games are stifling to all this. I mean, just think of all the games that slips through the cracks, just because a few people didn't like it. And when you find that game, and can't wait to try it out....just imagine the disappointment of your console not being able to read the game because it was simply used.
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I'm not liking this move. Firstly, a good bit of games achieve cult classic status and even a second life through secondhand and used games. To deny the ability to play these games are stifling to all this. I mean, just think of all the games that slips through the cracks, just because a few people didn't like it. And when you find that game, and can't wait to try it out....just imagine the disappointment of your console not being able to read the game because it was simply used.
I agree. It will also probably cause problems for shops that sell pre-owned games, such as CeX.

I'd say more but it would be too depressing.
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But guys. I can't just let you put down Sony's amazing idea like that. You're gonna have to take it's side because I have genuinely no points that'll make it sound good.
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So, I dislike Microsoft since the 360, iffy on Nintendo since the Wii, and now this is reason for me not to like Sony. This is retarded. I'm sure Sony's suffering a great deal with their Billions of dollars, guess they just need millions more. Greedy move, greedy move.
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Fact is is that Kona-chan actually raises a good point, about the new games getting lowered in price because no one wants to pay $60 for a game. If this gets ground, it could cannibalize gaming.
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Fact is is that Kona-chan actually raises a good point, about the new games getting lowered in price because no one wants to pay $60 for a game. If this gets ground, it could cannibalize gaming.
YEAH!

Alright everyone, you know what to do;

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Fact is is that Kona-chan actually raises a good point, about the new games getting lowered in price because no one wants to pay $60 for a game. If this gets ground, it could cannibalize gaming.
I have no idea how Sony doesn't realise this themselves, but they do lack a lot of common sense.

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YEAH!

Alright everyone, you know what to do;

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