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Old 01-07-2014, 02:44 PM   #1
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Do you think Nintendo should have kept third party out of Smash?

Topic. What are your thoughts?

Cool as Mega Man is and the thought of Pac Man, I am annoyed by ungrateful Sonic fans who want the entire cast in the game. And Snake....
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Old 01-07-2014, 02:50 PM   #2
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I think it's cool that they branched out to have third party guests, but like you said that invites a whole lot of requests for irrelevant characters. Thankfully Sakurai has a good mindset when approaching this topic. If you're going to have third parties it should be severely limited to important gaming icons (Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, etc.), otherwise it would just become a Nintendo All Stars vs. Sonic and Friends and that detracts from what Smash is about.
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Old 01-07-2014, 03:09 PM   #3
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The only annoying thing about third parties is that you get people requesting the entire Sonic roster or characters that have a snowball's chance in hell(like Cloud, who's surprisingly frequent). Sure sometimes it's weird to see someone like Snake showing up, but if the character is a popular request among Nintendo fans, I'm ok as long as the characters are iconic and/or they have a decent presence on Nintendo's platforms(hence why I'm still ok with Snake, but not Cloud, rampant biases notwithstanding). This also means I'm ok with obscure characters getting in as long as it's reasonable(but of course i'd say that, I'm a big advocate for Travis Touchdown )
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Old 01-07-2014, 03:50 PM   #4
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I'm okay with third party fighters as long as they are relevant.

Sonic is one things, as he is the mascot of a series that is pretty frequent on Nintendo consoles. The other Sonic characters really aren't as important, and I also feel that multiple characters from one third-party franchise could be a little... I don't want to say overkill, but a little too much, if you get my point.

And Final Fantasy characters... No. Not gonna happen. Not even the 16-bit characters that seem to be the only characters that HAVE been on Nintendo consoles. I don't see it happening.
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:22 PM   #5
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The only annoying thing about third parties is that you get people requesting the entire Sonic roster or characters that have a snowball's chance in hell(like Cloud, who's surprisingly frequent). Sure sometimes it's weird to see someone like Snake showing up, but if the character is a popular request among Nintendo fans, I'm ok as long as the characters are iconic and/or they have a decent presence on Nintendo's platforms(hence why I'm still ok with Snake, but not Cloud, rampant biases notwithstanding). This also means I'm ok with obscure characters getting in as long as it's reasonable(but of course i'd say that, I'm a big advocate for Travis Touchdown )

Snake doesn't really have much of a history with Nintendo though. Of course we all know how he got in but other than that he's more of a PlayStation character than anything. Sonic and Mega Man at least make sense.

But I guess I'm one to talk since deep down I am kind of hoping for a Tekken rep.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:01 PM   #6
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Snake doesn't really have much of a history with Nintendo though. Of course we all know how he got in but other than that he's more of a PlayStation character than anything. Sonic and Mega Man at least make sense.

But I guess I'm one to talk since deep down I am kind of hoping for a Tekken rep.
An(albeit crappy) port of the first game on the NES
Snake's Revenge(a fake sequel on the NES that many people including Kojima try to forget)
The painfully underrated Metal Gear Ghost Babel on the GBA
Twin Snakes remake of MGS on the GC
a 3D port of Snake Eater on the 3DS
The original(MSX) versions of the first two games on the Wii VC(Though in Japan only)

While it's not much, I honestly think it's pretty reasonable
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To be honest I could do without them. At least Sonic kinda makes sense since he has a crossover series with Mario but I think its better when Nintendo sticks to its own characters they know and love.

But in the end its not a make or break factor for me.
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An(albeit crappy) port of the first game on the NES
Snake's Revenge(a fake sequel on the NES that many people including Kojima try to forget)
The painfully underrated Metal Gear Ghost Babel on the GBA
Twin Snakes remake of MGS on the GC
a 3D port of Snake Eater on the 3DS
The original(MSX) versions of the first two games on the Wii VC(Though in Japan only)

While it's not much, I honestly think it's pretty reasonable
He knows Snake has a basis in Nintendos History, he's just mad because Snake is a high tier and pummels his Falcon.
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As long as they are balanced and aren't purposely a little strong just to not piss off company owners, then I see no problem

Just ignore the people requesting random characters and all is well. People were requesting cloud and sora before 3rd party characters were announced anyway lol.
Also, not to defend them, but thinking about new characters and making a fake moveset can be kind of fun at times.
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