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Old 02-06-2009, 01:10 AM   #1
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How important are graphics really?

i thought we could use some actual video game debates, so here we go.


it's very common to say that graphics in videogames take a backseat to gameplay. this notion is supported by many games with amazing graphics having sub-par gameplay, and older classics are cited as prime examples of the opposite; graphics don't make a great game.

i'm sure most here would agree, and yes i do too to a certain extent, but are there shades of grey that we're leaving out entirely?

would the cutscenes in any of the Metal Gear Solid games have been as cinematic and affecting if they did not have the amazing presentation that they did? (this goes for all of the games in the series and their respective times)

would the Wind Waker have been as enjoyable without the art style and the expressive characters and world? let's face it, the gameplay in that game wasn't exactly original. i love the game and it's one of my personal favorite zeldas, but aside from the sailing (which i did enjoy) it's the same Zelda we've been playing for twenty years, not to mention providing absolutely no challenge for series vets. but the charm of the game and the story (giving Link family members that weren't dead or absent from the plot was brilliant) really brought the game to a level that the core gameplay would never have achieved alone.

so, with these examples as a starting point, discuss. all opinions are of course welcome

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Old 02-06-2009, 04:10 AM   #2
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Old 02-06-2009, 08:42 AM   #3
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I actually love cel shaded games. Killer 7, TLoZ:WindWaker, No More Heroes, and Viewtiful Joe are just some examples of games that weren't graphically powerful, but still looked amazing stylistically.
So I don't think you need amazing, realistic graphics to have a good game. In fact, the large amount of games I own for the DS is a testament to that.
But certain games (shooters, specifically, or racing games) rely on more powerful graphics to advance the genre. Because really, what else has changed in shooters and racers (and Madden) in the last ten years, besides maybe the addition of online play?

I will admit, though....games like Resident Evil are just that much more immersive when the graphics are beefed up.
But a good game graphics do not make.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:05 AM   #4
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If people care about graphics and get annoyed by crap graphics even if the gameplay was AMAZING then they are stupid.
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Graphics don't really matter to me. Gameplay is the main thing I look for. Anyone who puts graphics over gameplay...it's just sad.
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Graphics over gameplay is just sad. Sure, most good graphics are needed for a game, most of the time. But, gameplay is more important, no doubt. :/
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Graphics aren't so important, but in terms of immersion, they certainly help. Of course, graphics shouldn't be an excuse for a shoddy game. Developers only have so much money in the budget, and I'd much rather see it go toward other areas than graphics, or even sound, to a degree.

However, suitable graphics are essential. What this means will be different for every game, of course, but as just about everyone here has already said, good graphics don't make good games.

You want good graphics? Watch a movie in HD.
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