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Old 04-29-2010, 11:38 PM   #1
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AZ Bill: Good Idea or Racial Profiling?

I'm not sure what the name of the bill is, but it basically says:

Immigrants are required to have their immigration papers on their persons at all times, so that if cops have reasonable suspicion that they are illegal, they must submit to showing the cop their immigration papers.

One side: We don't want illegals. With jobs as tight as they are we don't want them waltzing over here and taking our jobs (even though this part of the US really belonged to Mexicans and Native Americans first).

The other: The bill will call for alot of cases on Racial Profiling, obviously.

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Old 04-29-2010, 11:57 PM   #2
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You do realise this is for Arizona only right? Also, states are not allowed to make any bills about immigration, so this means nothing anyway.
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:30 PM   #3
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Obviously?

I see no instance of race at all in this bill.
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:37 PM   #4
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Aliens are great for our country because they are bringing cocaine with them?
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:43 PM   #5
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^ All aliens aren't illegal, nor do they all bring cocaine with them. That's just a bad generalization of an entire group of people. Some of them are honest enough people looking for an opportunity, even if that is a smaller portion of them.

As for the bill itself, I'd say it will do its job, and people complaining about racial profiling need to get over it. Profiling would be prevalent whether this was in place or not. Whether it makes it worse or not has yet to be determined.
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:23 PM   #6
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I don't know about you, but if 99% of illegal immigrants into the US are of a certain race, it only makes sense to think most people of that race living in areas known to foster illegals are illegal. I think the bill is fine, and the only people protesting it are people who are foreign nationalists who support people breaking the law.

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Old 04-30-2010, 08:22 PM   #7
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The debate is that people are worried cops will simply start detaining people for being illegal aliens without a really good reasonable suspiscion (excuse my spelling if it is incorrect), even though they could be totally legitimate. It will cause some tensions people say.
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Old 04-30-2010, 08:41 PM   #8
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I don't see a problem with it. Just like drivers have to have their driver's license and registration on them if they are driving a vehicle, shouldn't immigrants have to have their "license and registration" on them ?
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I don't see anything wrong with the bill, the only problem I'd see in this is that if I forget my passport(I'm Mexican, but don't worry I'm legal), I'm pretty much screwed, and that's more of a personal note anyway, so it's really not much of a big deal
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